https://www.duolingo.com/G.kent0

Finnish?

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So currently I have an interest in learning Finnish, and I was just wondering if any sort of Finnish course is being discussed or if anyone had a good source that I could use. Currently the best thing i have found is Memrise, but the courses do not get in depth with how to construct sentences nor do they teach any sort of grammar. So if anyone knows anything that would be awesome.

Thanks you.

July 15, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/JTGruver

Everyone wants a Finnish course on here but it just hasn't been put in the incubator yet

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Vstig
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Obligatory lingots for Finnish mention

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/G.kent0
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Thank you!

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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As others have already written, we have no clue when this joyous day will come.

Personally, I've started preparing by listing amusing sentences from pop songs to include in the skills... X-)

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Gluehbirneee
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Oh, that's cool! :D Now I'm even more looking forward to a Finnish course (if that's even possible...^^) Would you mind giving us a little sneak preview? Like, just one sentence? :) (I'm just too curious....)

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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Besides what annika said, I'm fairly confident another classic song title that will appear in the course is Sininen ja valkoinen.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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Haha, I didn't really get that far yet (I was supposed to be doing my day job...).

I also discovered that

a) many of the good songs have very inventive and poetic turns of phrases, and therefore don't really contain Duolingo-friendly phrases

b) many other classics are really quite rude and/or primarily about drinking, so the same goes for them

c) I don't really know what's hip on the music scene anymore.

But one sentence that will certainly come up very early on in the course (and I can say this with confidence, whether or not I'll be on the contributor team), is of course this: Olen suomalainen.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl
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I was incredibly excited when I first found that song in Finnish, as I already knew the Italian version: Sono italiano

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=frr65AEiFs8

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/lydiaoxenstierna

a) that's true, we couldn't use them for the basics- the best thing possible is to put words into categories, like feelings or similes and things, maybe as bonus skills c) probably not Aina Mun Pitää, and Frontside Ollie (Robin).. more infamous than anything else. But I really want to help with the Finnish course when I'm more fluent! Best of luck if (when) you get on the team!

July 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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Actually, Aina mun pitää is an excellent example of simple, yet useful Finnish! Thanks for reminding me of that one. But I assume (I still have absolutely no affiliation with Duolingo, so it really is just assumptions) that the course would teach "proper" Finnish, rather than the spoken language. But except for the words in the title, most of the lyrics are actually pretty standard Finnish, so it could be a cool cultural thing to add...

Even Frontside Ollie has a few phrases one might consider... (never thought I'd look up the lyrics to that one...). After all, there are a lot of kids on Duolingo.

July 17, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/lydiaoxenstierna

Yeah, I think it would teach kirjakieli, since there are a few dialects (Savonian etc.) I never actually thought of it that way- maybe if there's a lesson on necessity verbs or genitive. Kiitos tuosta! And I may have looked up the lyrics too..

August 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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But as for an actual sneak preview, I think the course should teach the sentence "When the guitar plays, one is not allowed to cry".

(That passive structure flows much better in Finnish than in English... "you're not allowed to cry" or even "you're not to cry" would also be acceptable translations in my mind.)

July 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/GregTrotter

Mate, this gets discussed every day on here. As far as I can tell, there isn't any Finnish course being worked on at this stage.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/chaered
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Do you think it will ever make it to the finnish line?

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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chaered, you're writing such crazy things that I am wondering if you have overdosed on any of the following Finnish delicacies:

mämmi i

tippaleipä

kalakukko

July 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/chaered
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My extensive knowledge of Finnish cuisine and culture is based entirely on salmiakki candy and Leningrad Cowboys videos. You have broadened my gustatory horizons!

July 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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Dude, you started at the top, it's all downhill from there... :-D (At least candy-wise).

July 17, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Taurendil
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I've heard Finnish is coming eventually. It is not even in works yet but just be patient! :)

July 15, 2015

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Since it's an introductory course, it could be called "Beginning Finnish." That could be the title of the first skill, maybe.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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I doubt that any actual Finnish people will want to include any jokes along the finish/Finnish axis in the course. :-) We're boring like that... (well, some of us are).

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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I would be against it mainly because jokes tend to lose their charm after the first couple of thousand times you hear them.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/chaered
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But suome of the people just lapp it up...

July 15, 2015

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annika_a, I wasn't serious, and apologize if I gave offence. If Duo took up such a suggestion I would be more surprised probably than anyone else. . . . Besides, chaered has me totally outclassed, if that's the word.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a
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Don't worry at all, slogger! :-) it's just like scarcerer writes, we've heard them so many times... But I have to agree that chaered is being pretty inventive.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/chaered
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Well, I am inspired by a picture of the duo owl: a scanned-in avian. And I realise Finland is paradise on Earth, with a bit that would not fit sticking out to the south-west of it (SW Eden).

July 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/GregTrotter

That was awful. Have a lingot!

July 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/FlynnCowan

Ten lingots for supporting Finnish!

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/G.kent0
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Thank you!

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Tvashi
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i too would love to have finnish here, but, there is no finnish course in the incubator now:(hope they make one soon....

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/cpuandnet

Memrise.com has Finnish if you are interested.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/widle
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I'm trying Finnish on Memrise right now, thanks for the tip. Pity that it only teaches words, not phrases or whole sentences - it's much harder to learn all the words without any context.

July 18, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Nikos-
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I've heard that Finnish would be harder than the other languages to make a course for. I also have a friend who is obsessed with learning the language and she said Duolingo wouldn't be able to make a proper course for it.

Though I would love to see it! It's so pretty.

July 15, 2015

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If they are doing the course in Hungarian which is actually soon ready then I can't see no reason why a proper course couldn't be done in Finnish and Estonian. The structure would be quite the same in these languages having 14-16 cases each of them. So I think your friend is wrong.

July 15, 2015

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I see your point. Hungarian is said to be the hardest European language, no? I think Finnish and Estonian were runners up.

Though my friend is quite critical of Duolingo so she could be wrong. I think Duo is quite good at teaching languages if we supplement it with other resources.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Adomas_Lite

Lithuanian is much harder than Hungarian (my native language). Even us natuive speakers have trouble with it sometimes.

July 15, 2015

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Lithuanian is much harder than Hungarian (my native language).

It's not so much about one language being harder than another language (which depends a lot on the learner anyway), it's more about Hungarian and Finnish (and Estonian) having a certain structure which makes them hard to squeeze into the format of the courses here on Duolingo. But since Hungarian has gotten quite far, there's always hope!

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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Well, I doubt there is a language even native speakers wouldn't sometimes have trouble with.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/GabrielDayot
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Yes! I myself have trouble with my my native languages, I'm fluent with 3 languages, and sometimes when I don't know the right words, I code-switch and people would still understand me.

July 18, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/G.kent0
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From what I know about the language, it would be difficult, but i think it could work.

July 15, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/GabrielDayot
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I think you can use Finnish pod 101. They have a YouTube account which is obviously free and they have a website which has a 7-day trial. Links: http://www.finnishpod101.com/ and https://www.youtube.com/user/FinnishPod101 They also have other pods, like the Spanishpod101, Portuguesepod101 (Brazil) and Frenchpod101.

July 18, 2015

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Can't someone that wants to learn Finnish start creating the course so that actual finnish people are more tempted to join? I actually think that that would work.

July 16, 2015

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