Duolingo for the blind?
Just a suggestion for Duolingo: make a blind-compatible Duolingo, where the words can be spelled out by the number of which they occur. It would be a great help, thanks.
Well, the site and app both are very accessible for the blind for the most part; I would know because I am blind myself, but you who are so against making the speech thing more accessible! Even though this is a month later, you are infringing on the rights of a blind person being understood by the microphone! No WONDER that thing accepts incorrect pronounciation, no matter the quality! Yet in reality, it's just doing the "correct" sound just to let the user through but displaying a message on the screen that the speech was wrong? Oh no! A blind person should know their errors just like a sighted one! Also, while we're on this subject, on the app, there's a very accessible way to repeat the audio of the "type what you hear" exercises, but why not on the web, when the sighted people can do that just fine?!!!
I have found parts of duolingo where no audio was even an option. I'm not blind, but I have wondered if the JAWS reader works in those situations. I do think that it would help if almost all websites had at least 1 blind person and many websites had 1 deaf-blind person on staff, beta-testing usability issues. I'm not sure how a deaf-blind person could learn foreign languages. But I did read a few years back, what one deaf-blind person uses for web access that works well for him. I just can't remember anything about it. I thought he was out of the UK.
Pronunciation: My voice print has a square in it, which is why I don't do the "pronunciation test" items on any website or program. Dragon speak does not work for me either, yet. But, I will be getting dragon speak pro and then going from there.
I actually use my iPhone with Duolingo, so I am using VoiceOver, not Jaws. However, trying it with my laptop is not a bad idea, although ppthe works faster than the internet version. I have noticed, in the past few updates, that it is ever harder for me to know how I missed a question, like if I mis-translated a sentence. Recently, I answered a question in French, but the "Correct sollution" thing never came up, so I thought I was getting the grammar wrong, only to find out later that I had only been mis-spelling one word. I have not tried the internet version recently, so I don't know if this is just on ,the app, but that has got to be fixed because how can I learn if I don't know what I'm doing wrong?
Agreed! Today I accidentally wrote in English "ist" instead of "is". My biggest problem with learning German is that I know German just well enough that I always want to translate the German into German. lol
Best wishes on your French! I am learning French and Russian (and 10 other languages), but only trying to get familiar with the languages this year. Next year I will try to have recall with those languages.
I happened upon a website owned by a deaf-blind person, who learned to type in English. He uses a special device to use the internet. I never got to play with one, so do not know how it works. However, if Duolingo were to work with that device, Deaf-blind people would come here and learn another language. Granted, we wouldn't get many people, but it would put Duolingo way ahead of the pack.
I am very happy to hear that Duolingo works well for blind people, but the part that says "Also, while we're on this subject, on the app, there's a very accessible way to repeat the audio of the "type what you hear" exercises, but why not on the web, when the sighted people can do that just fine?!!!" is very bad news. Good luck with Duolingo!
A blind person would need to be able to enable the feature, which would be hard to implement, and Duolingo would need to improve their voice recognition so a blind person would be able to use Duolingo as they wouldn't be able to see any mistakes created by Duolingo's voice recognition software.
It would be a worthy amount of work for an ever more independent demographic.
The biggest problem as I see it is that we were taught to think "majority" at the expense of the "minority". WWII should have taught us how evil this is. Unfortunately, not everyone got the message. This is why I champion anything works for those of us in the minority - deaf, blind or both deaf and blind in the same person, etc.