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"The candle fell and a fire started."

Translation:Thit an choinneal agus thosaigh tine.

July 19, 2015



Oh fooey. The lenition on candle. I forgot direct objects lenite. Somebody lenite my candle? ;)


Unless I'm mistaken, "candle" is the subject and it lenites because it's a feminine noun following "an."


Should this be "... agus tosaíodh tine"?


That would be 'let a fire start', the imperative. thosaíodh would be 'a fire used to start' (past habitual)


"thosaíodh" would be the past habitual, but "tosaíodh" is past tense autonomous/passive person, so "tosaíodh tine" would be "a fire was started", which would seem to me to be equivalent to "a fire started" in english. Imerative would be "tosaigh tine" = "start a fire", wouldn't it. I did see (after posting this) a comment on another thread that "thosaigh tine" can be used intransitively, so used that way "thosaigh tine" would seem correct for "a fire started". I wasn't familiar with this usage.


Wow, oops. Forgot about the past autonomous (cause it is also the imperative). So. There's two things:

  1. It's not really a passive; it'd equate more to 'one started a fire'

  2. Based on samples in FGB, it's fine as it is. They have thosaigh an chluiche for 'the game started'.


How can missing one letter out of a word be judged to have used the wrong word?


Depends which letter. I've noticed that missing a single letter off usually gets allowed as a typo unless you correctly spell a different word by accident.

On the other hand it usually lets you off missing the initial mutations off words in Irish because "it's just one letter", and in that case I kind of feel that it shouldn't since they're such an important concept to learn.

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