Hi, couldn't it also be just 'clothes/clothing' without the article if we're talking in an abstract sense? I.e. La paix - peace... can the same rule be applied with ordinary nouns too?
Duo has a strong preference for insisting on using the appropriate article, not just the noun by itself. They also carry this into the English translation by insisting that the English include the article, even though English does not normally use articles with nouns. I think the reason is that all French nouns have a gender and in French, the article is automatically included.
Oh! I typed only 'clothes' and Duo took it correct. Now, I'm confused! So, what about clothes in general? Is it 'des' or 'les' only?
At level 7, you are in the middle of learning about this. There are several things going on. First, in terms of just recognizing "les vêtements" as "clothes" or "the clothes" when it stands alone (i.e., not as part of a sentence). However when part of a sentence, there are several possibilities:
- les vêtements = the clothes (some specific clothes, plural) -or- clothes in general
- des vêtements = (some) clothes. The "des" represents the plural of "un" (or "une" for feminine nouns).
In French, you must say "des vêtements" to refer to the plural of "un vêtement". In English, this can be translated as "clothes" or "some clothes". The "some" is often omitted, i.e., it is not needed in English. Be aware that as you consider the meaning, if you mean "some" clothes, that you must use "des" in French, even though you might not actually say "some" in English. HTH
thanks a lot n6zs! that helps and whoa! 443 days streak ! thumbs up! I've jst begun!
how can you know this just from this statement? why it can't be the case that meaning is here "clothes in general"? it seems to me that both "clothes" and "the clothes" are correct translations.
So far we've translated a whole class using the partitive preposition, so it would be "des vêtements" - I guess
I wrote "items of clothing" and it's wrong but how? Oh and where is my heart!!!
Le or l' is pronounced like "luh" with the o shape of lips as in "learn". And les as "leh" like saying "energy" with big smile. Practice hearing both with Google Translator or videos...
Elsewhere in the lesson it translated "vetements" as "garments," but in this case it said that was wrong....
You have to listed for Le/La/Les/des etc. Plural and singular forms of the noun itself usually sound identical.
It all in articles. For singular, it is 'le' which is pronounced something like "luh" (like 'loo'). For plural, it is 'les' which is something like "leh". I have a lost lot of cute l'il hearts to these nasty plurals ;) Nothing but listening more carefully. Hope this helps you!
Clothing in english is plural. If you wanted to make it singular you would say in english, a piece of clothing, or the garment. In french it would just be le vêtement for the singular form.
To me, I thought clothing would be the appropriate one but I can see why clothes would work, too. I think this question should have accepted multiple answers.
I noticed that « vêtements » is a cognate to "vestments", which in English refer to the ceremonious robes of a priest or other official. So I checked in a dictionary for how the French would indicate this more precise meaning. For a priest's vestments, it is the very specific « vêtements sacerdotaux » (singular « vêtement sacerdotal ») and for some other official one might say « habitude de cérémonie ».
I apologize if someone has pointed this out already but I am having trouble scrolling on this page for some reason; I couldn't read all the comments.