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The "Immersion" Wikipedia flood

As a German learner, I use Immersion (of course) to advance my skills beyond the vocabulary used in the course. However, I, like pretty much every other Immersion user, have noticed a trend among articles to be mostly articles from Wikipedia. While this is definitely an easy-access tool to free content (so one does not have to pay to post the article), Wikipedia is, by its nature, college-level encyclopedic, which means that most of the articles are hard to read.

If one is looking for easily-accessible free content that is easy to read, I suggest Wikivoyage or Wikibooks, both of which are run by the same organization that runs Wikipedia.

If others could find free-content, easy-to-read articles for sourcing to Immersion, that would be fantastic.

Thanks,
4of92000
July 24, 2015

18 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/SebastianBenetS

While I do find the Wikipedia articles difficult to translate the majority of the time, I prefer that as it means that I have to look up the word meanings and grammar structures I don't understand, and check with English explanations of the concepts to see if my translation makes any sense, which is much better practise than just being able to do anything immediately.

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/MikaelMello

That's the reason why I only translate my own articles. They are interesting, reliable and are at my level.

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

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wiki or not is not the issue

quality of words sing out over the pages

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July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/4of92000

Poetic, but I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say.

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/ForgedbyHistoria

What matters is the quality of the article, rather than the source?

July 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Jack.Elliot

exactly

July 25, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/4of92000

Oh. That's a lot more straightforward.

Unfortunately, the source does matter (from a submitting perspective), since if you are putting non-free content, you need to 1) actually own the article, and 2) pay for putting it up (this is how Duolingo gets money). So if somebody owns some great articles written in German or French or Spanish or whatever and is willing to pay to put them up, that would be fantastic. But free content is a lot easier to come by.

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/LeIouch

Wikinews is also good. Often the articles are more concise than the usual commercial newspaper articles making them easier to get through and shorter articles are often checked by more people.

https://www.wikinews.org

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Grant30

The only real reason why I post wikipedia articles, and I'm probably not alone in this, is that I don't have to worry about any copyright issues. However, Wikivoyage and Wikibooks seem to be better alternatives than the usual Wikipedia articles, especially the former since that one deals with travel.

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Alastair17

To each his all I suppose, I do get the idea of uploading easier articles at the beginning and then advancing towards loftier goals later, I just find that I learn better by uploading very difficult articles, Wikipedia and news stories, and spending the time going through each sentence and learning a lot more vocabulary on the way. If you do upload an article where you know all of the grammar and sentence structure beforehand, was there any real reason to upload it?

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Elizabeth261736

That is one of the reasons that I have been less interested in immersion than I might otherwise be. Wikipedia is not the most reliable source of information.

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/ketoacidosis

I see you have some downvotes. I think people disagree that Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information.

That might have been a good argument maybe 10+ years ago, but I think most people nowadays would agree that Wikipedia is more accurate and up to date than many encyclopedias (on most topics).

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/ElFFELTOWER

I agree that Wikipedia is a more reliable source of information now a days than it was 10+ years ago.

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/CarlosJFort

For you, which source of information is truly reliable?

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/ElFFELTOWER

For me, a variety of sources are reliable, including Wikipedia. So I can compare. I was taught that in school that I need to get my information from more than just one website for my information to be more accurate.

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/beadspitter

That's a great recommendation. Thanks!

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/DraeWright

Thanks much. Had not figured this out but wanted a change. Very helpful post!

July 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/oskalingo

I've just submitted the article for France on the French Wikivoyage site:

https://www.duolingo.com/translation/bd2c9a961e7667b9532aa1d5e7b29a1b

It's a long article so I very much welcome others to help translate. A chance to possibly pick up some new information about travel in France while also being exposed to key vocabulary.

July 25, 2015
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