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I'd like to make a lesson but I don't know how to start...

MeredithNa
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One of the things that I think that is missing from the English --> Spanish course is a dedicated lesson on what I call ''backwards verbs'', or an action that comes towards the speaker/writer even though the action originates from within the speaker/writer. These are the ones that function like this: Subject, verb, indirect object

An English example is "to remind" or "to fascinate".

You (subject) remind (verb) me (indirect object). He (subject) fascinates (verb) the children (indirect object) with his magic.

A "normal" verb is "to like". The difference is that the object is a direct object, not an indirect object.

I (subject) like (verb) you (object).

Verbs such as gustar, aburrir, fascinar, interestar etc. all use this "backwards" system. This is very confusing for a lot of people and even though it is touched on during DL, I think it would be very worth while to add a dedicated lesson towards the end of the tree (or even in the middle of it!). This is especially because of the fact that the indirect/direct object comes before the verb in Spanish and not after it as in English.

Anyway, I would be interested in writing a lesson if someone is willing to teach me how to do it, or if I could just write a lot of example sentences with as many translations I can think of and email them to an administrator.

If I'm being too forward and rude or I posted this in the wrong area, I humbly apologise to everyone. Please forgive me, I mean no offense.

I hope you have a lovely day.

MeredithNa.

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward
Lrtward
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You can apply to contribute to a course by going to the Incubator (https://incubator.duolingo.com/) and clicking the white button.

If you are talking about the "Spanish for English speakers" course, there is a skill set that covers object pronouns; it is three skill sets before the last check point.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward
Lrtward
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P.S. I think it's a shame you felt like you had to apologize and ask forgiveness in advance. These discussion forums can be brutal, and that's a shame. That was a kind offer you made.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MeredithNa
MeredithNa
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I have to admit, sometimes I feel like I can seem a little too forward and I know some people can take it the wrong way due to the lack of vocal inflections. Apologising in advance is easier than apologising after the fact. Lol. I never mean to be mean, but you know how text can skew what you are trying to say.

I was talking about verbs that use that specific sentence structure. I can never tell someone with complete confidence the Spanish translation for "I think he likes me" or "They (will) remind themselves to catch the chicken".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MeredithNa
MeredithNa
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Not that I have ever used that last sentence before today...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob2042

First requirement is you have to be bilingual in the course you want to contribute. That right there knocks me out and probably you, too, even though we have both put in lots of time learning Spanish. I would think we could probably come pretty close to making a lesson with few errors that could easily be corrected. The Spanish course is sorely lacking in content, particularly vocabulary and translation from English to Spanish. I would think duolingo would welcome help but they seem more interested in offering more courses. Personally, I think it would be better to improve existing courses, first, but that`s just me.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MeredithNa
MeredithNa
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That was my other problem. According to DL, I can read 55% of Spanish articles. I don't know how accurate that is but I still have 45% to go... I'm in no way in any stretch of the imagination bilingual.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tom873317
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Have you looked at Memrise? They let you create courses, though I'm not sure of the details. Overall, the system doesn't hold a candle to Duolingo, but it might be a good place to set up this or other supplementary lesson ideas.

Anyway, I strongly agree with you that the "backwards" verbs could use more focus. Faltar is one I'm still bad with.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MeredithNa
MeredithNa
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Yes, I'm a Membasador on Memrise, and I considered making a backwards verb course but I believe that DL would be a better platform as 1) it would reach over one million people instantly rather than maybe three if I go through Memrise and 2) people have been asking for it. I just think that this dedicated lesson would fill a fairly important hole for DL. I have received so much from this site that I would love to give back.

3 years ago