https://www.duolingo.com/jirka92122

How many Duolingo "learners" knew Esperanto before?

Something that I keep wondering about that may be hard to answer, but how many of the people learning Esperanto here, really had no real knowledge of Esperanto before. I assume there are people who take the course to practice or improve (I would guess only a very few actually fluent speakers would go through the course). An answer to this question would help perhaps to interpret the "# of learners" statistic. OK, perhaps to start: I knew "of" Esperanto, but I didn't know it before starting.

July 31, 2015

34 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/JohnD62

I started studying Esperanto 34 years ago, long before the Internet. We used paper and the mail.

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/RG710

Wow, I wonder how do people learn languages before the internet especially Esperanto? I always thought that it was tough since there was not a lot of resources available.

August 9, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/JohnD62

It was certainly tougher, but even today there are people who learn Esperanto without the use of a computer. Amazing but true, it can be done! In my first decade as an Esperanto learner, there was no online.

August 9, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/jeff121271

I had learned (and then partially forgotten) most of the language's rules on Lernu before I even knew there was a Duo course in the works. It was fun to blow through the course and review though; I relearned a lot.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Red_Rat_Writer

I studied it on and off, but I never got over the initial hurdle of actually understanding the language. This program helped me make actual progress in the language.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty

I knew very very very very few things before I started the course, I mean, I knew the basic rules (-o is noun, -e is adverb, -as present, -is past, etc, etc, etc, pronunciation, etc), but I knew almost zero vocabulary.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Platypus01

I tried Lernu a few years ago, and once went to a summer course in Sydney. It was actually me trying to learn Italian with my wife that got me onto Duolingo. The Esperanto course offered is a bonus for me. The issues I had learning Italian has made me want to get more fluent in Esperanto before I go back to Italian.

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KristenDQ

I had never even heard of it before starting! But I figured I'd give it a try, I like it so far.....

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/seveer

First, the fun part: Here is my totally, absolutely, completely unscientific and probably very wrong estimate, based on my 2+ months experience in the EO forums here on Duolingo:

Each group is exclusive of the others.

5% of users knew Esperanto quite well and are here to improve the EO beta and contribute their expertise. Some subset of these are the true experts, the rest are people who have used it at some point in their every-day lives.

10% of users did some basic work with Esperanto on Lernu or in a grammar and may be able to read basic texts but have never attained fluency or spoken it in person more than a few times. This is where I fall.

35% of users have heard of Esperanto and wanted to learn it but never put in much of an effort until they saw it on Duolingo.

50% of users knew absolutely nothing of substance about Esperanto except perhaps the figurative sense of Anything that is used as a single international medium in place of plural distinct national media. (Wiktionary) or an extremely vague notion that it was an invented language.

Again, the above is all utter nonsense and probably bears little relationship with reality, but it is my impression.

Somewhat more important, and related to this question is "How many people signed up for the course are actually using it?" Probably fewer than half are "active" users (using it every day or even every week). Duolingo at some point released numbers for % of active users for all languages but I don't know where you'd find them. And then it is going to be some subset of that, probably again less than half, that ever finishes the tree. Some smaller number still will attain the legendary level 25, of which yet still some smaller number of users are/will someday be truly fluent speakers (although you needn't achieve level 25 to do that: in fact in Esperanto it would probably be something of a waste of time).

Which of these groups qualify as "learners?" If I enroll in classes but never show up or even crack open a book, does that make me a "learner" just because my name is in some database? The button to completely remove yourself from a language here on Duolingo is nested deeply enough in the settings that I wouldn't be surprised if over 25% of the users of every language are just people who dabbled with it for no more than one or two lessons and then never removed their username from the roster for that language. I've extolled the virtues of Duolingo to enough people that quite a few of my real-life friends have signed up here. Not a single one remains active. Yet they all show up as enrolled in their respective languages.

August 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/marypaulinem

Shortly after I graduated high school in the mid to late 80's, I had first learned of Esperanto from an international pen pal. Took part of the free postal course some time between the late 80's to early 90's but sadly did not stick with it. Became reacquainted with Esperanto around June of 2015 when I heard mention of it on a NPR podcast. I did a google search and saw how many resources were available and BOOM, I was hooked.

August 5, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Smalde

I knew of it, but I didn't know it.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Mathso2

Same!

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Taloua

I did not even know about a language called Esperanto exists, but now I know it very well and i'm doing well so far :)

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annie1258

I had heard of it but I didn't know any of it.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Briskrisk

I had no knowledge of it prior to seeing it on Duo.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/PKFFW

I had heard of it and knew a bit of the history and reason for its creation but had not studied it at all.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Starhowler

I took a beginner's class on Esperanto in college, but that was over 10 years ago and, like someone else said, I only really knew the basics like part-of-speech markers. I played around with lernu, but I find the material there incredibly stuffy and never got anywhere with it. For all intents and purposes I had no real knowledge of the language before starting the Duolingo course.

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/qwertzqwerty

I started learning Esperanto in January, a few months before the course came out. I always kind of wanted to learn a constructed language, and the announcement of this course was one of the things that got me motivated to finally start doing so.

I mostly started out by reading through grammar books (A Complete Grammar of Esperanto, Kostenloser Esperanto-Kurs), and reading/listening to the language on Wikipedia/YouTube. I also went through the Ana Pana course on lernu, but lernu's interface really annoys me so I don't use it anymore.

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Luko.

I thought I know a lot about it, and I know most of the grammar, but with the course I learned a lot of vocabulary and new uses.

August 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/LytjeDk

I have studied it some before. Lernu.net Free Esperanto Course http://pacujo.net/esperanto/course/ And I even went to a 'IRL' course

Still I find that DuoLingo is a very good way to practice!

August 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Bducdt

When I was like 14 (10 years ago) I spent a couple months learning it over the period of ~ 2 months. I progressed to the point where I was able to participate in chatrooms and forums. Since then, I've completely forgot it. So somewhere in between?

August 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Foudeb
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I did a bit of lernu ages ago and quit. I prefer the Duo interface, but might go back to lernu when I finish my tree here.

August 3, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/CuriousAtanaa

I had learnt a little on another website, but that was quite some time ago and I hadn't got very far.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/temrix

I could speak Esperanto before but there are also some things I have already learnt in this course.

July 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Aietra

Jes! I learned the basics on Lernu several years ago, but dropped it for a few years while vet school (bestokuiristolernantejo?) ate my life. Now I'm re-learning what I knew, and expanding my vocab a little to try and become properly proficient rather than having to make up new words all the time. I'd almost forgotten how much I adore Esperanto...

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Sadiamahroug

I have begin to learn it a few months ago ! With Lernu , one internet esperanto site. It is a very interesting site. I learn it because i find interesting what is behind this language and would like it grows more and more as world language, joining humans. It is easy, and carry a dream that is not commercial. That is for what i go on. Dream dream dream !!!

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/KovarekD

I've heard of Esperanto before, yet this is my very first experience of learning it.

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/brione

I started to learn it on my own with a book about fifteen years ago and got busy and dropped it.

So I had a little familiarity when I started (-o means noun) and that's about it.

August 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/jaiagreen

I did a couple of weeks on Lernu 10-12 years ago, but that's it. I have more time now than I did as an undergrad.

August 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor

I'm excited to see how many people hadn't learned it before it got released on Duo, it seems the course is really helping people to break into it.

I had read through a really great sort of textbook on it called A Complete Grammar of Esperanto that actually teaches you all of the grammar very well, and then watched a video series called Pasporto al la tuta mondo on youtube, which actually brought me up to functional speed in a matter of months. The course is definitely helping me improve though.

August 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/ChristianofPeace

I knew about it and maybe 50 words but I couldn't form sentences like I can now. I reset my tree and I'm doing it again.

August 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/nysimchi

I clicked on it by accident and since it then appeared on duo app on the phone, just gave it a try. :)

August 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/myerstyson

I'm at about a B1-B2 in reading it, but have rarely spoken it with anyone. I'm at about an A2 in listening (mostly to the Polish radio and some youtube videos). I am taking the course now to review basics.

August 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/BruceWegne

I heard about it I think while watching a youtube video about Liberland. There was a brief discussion about what the official language should be if the creation of this new country becomes a success. People mentioned English, Czech and Esperanto. Others thought no language should be official, but rather, people should speak what ever language works for them as the situation dictates. Never-the-less it would be interesting to see it be successful. Mi esperas ke ĝi estos sukcesa. Mi ne kredas ke neniu lingvoj estu "oficialaj".

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