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Suggestion: replace levels with the CEFR ranking system

First of all, I have been using this service for a while now and I must admit I really like it. Something that bothers me, however, is the current level system. To me the levels 1-25 do not mean much. Now I am a gamer, and I understand the concept of learning languages should be fun. However, to me fun is knowing exactly where I stand at the language I am learning. My suggestion is to introduce the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR) language system to replace the current level system. It is even possible to add nuance to the 6 different sub-levels by adding a number to the them. For instance: A1-1,A1-2, A-3 until you progress to the next level. This to me would be even more motivational to learning languages on here: a meaningful rank that translates into the real world would make me more inclined to keep coming back here and see myself progress more precisely along the way to mastery of a foreign language. I´m interested in what both the creators as well as the rest of the community think about this matter.

4 years ago

6 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/chibi_usa

It wouldn't make sense to replace the levels 0-25 with the CEFR levels because the levels don't correspond with the lessons you have done. Someone could be on level 15 with only having done the first 5 skills. It depends on how much the people work on the skills. So saying at level 15 you are at a A2-3 wouldn't be true. Also, there isn't any composition in duolingo that could adiquestly correspond with the CEFR rank by itself, as well, the oral comprehension and creation isn't dealt with on duolingo. Although it is a good idea, the CEFR rank doesn't correspond with the duolingo program.

However, once you finish you tree the send the majority of people (I'm not sure if it's everyone) a link to a free (otherwise paid for) placement test - webCAPE - that evaluates what university level you would be in at an American university.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kai_E.
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It would be nice to have that, and I'm all for it. However, as it stands this wouldn't be possible because Duolingo currently doesn't exercise or measure conversational proficiency, which is very important to the CEFR scale. Maybe someday though.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Puddleglum
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Agreed. In Duolingo's current form, levels work fine. I'm not sure it will ever really need to change levels for something like the CEFR. Maybe eventually users might be able to view this somewhere, but it seems a bit too stiff for Duolingo's atmosphere.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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I like the current level system. I am slow to learn languages. However, I practice a lot and can see some small reward for my efforts. I am still responsible to go as far as I want to with learning the language itself. A boss won't look at my DL level to see if I am proficient. They will have me take a test or look at the DL test (not level) to get an idea of where I am.

So, I hope they keep it as it is. I would feel discouraged if there was no recognition. If I were so independent and did not need the kind of feedback I am getting here, I would go find a different format that worked better for me. ^_^

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/french_kisses

If A1-C2 would be too stiff and hard to measure, then adding categories ranging from beginner, to intermediate or advanced would be helpful. Good to hear what others are thinking though.

4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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One "problem" is: why CEFR and not ACTFL or ILR?

4 years ago