Why is English grammar so simple but so important to our eyes?
I do not mean that grammar is not important, the grammar is totally relevant when speaking your native language and/or a foreigner.
English grammar is so simple when compared to any European language (including our Portuguese coming from European Portuguese) and for this reason, I think it is overrated, before having speech skills, people care a lot about: How is going my grammar? This is half "incomprehensible".
Constating that English doesn't have almost nothing of grammatical cases, no adjective declension, there is no gender to nouns, almost no conjugation: You, They and I have the same conjugation, most languages have two ways to speak "You" and conjugate it, in Portuguese for example, there are "Você" and "Tu" and every one of them has a specific conjugation, in English, "You" is the first and second person of the singular, in other words, "Você" and "Tu" are translated as "You".
Although the verbal tenses are more complex than ours, English makes in you a less analytical and more objective vision/view of the "external" world.
I think English grammar is not to be considered the biggest obstacle for most of learners of English, grammar is a motive of social criticism among the people and/or the most discussed subject ever!!
Just an opinion.. Thanks. :)
In my opinion, Grammar isn't important(Yes, You gotta learn grammar, but not just focus on it)You gotta learn when to use it, Not grammar. Lemme make my point.
The girls from krewella are hot. In this sentence, what can we know by the grammar?
The(I don't know the name of this in grammar)Girls(nouns(I guess)) from(preposition) are(2b) hot(I think it's an adjective)
You don't have to think of it when you're writing something, You just gotta speak your mind.
"Yet the person needs to know grammar to write it correctly" No, The person needs to know how to use it.
The(I gotta use this one 'cause I'm specifying the girls) Girls(I'm talking about more than one girl, So I gotta use "Girls" instead of girl) from("A way to say someone who's in a band)krewella(their band's name)are("Girls is more than one, So here we gotta use "are" instead of "is"")hot("Here, I write what I wanna say about them").
Did you get my explanation?
I didn't use grammar to clear the sentence up. They make you learn grammar as if native speakers speak the most perfect English. I already talked with native speakers who make more grammar mistakes than me(You fell like asking them "are there schools in your city?"). Yet they're native speakers, They know talk about anything, Don't take it from me, Ask someone who was born in texas if he/she watched a movie(for example "The pursuit of happyness"), He/she's gonna answer you "I seen"(I mean "I saw" I gotta write it correctly 'cause if not, The Brazilian grammar nazi comes here to fix me up and tells me that I don't have the right to write it wrong like a native speaker does because I'm Brazilian (a word to the wise is enough! ^^))
I'm not saying that everyone from texas speaks this way!!!!
Hmmm.. Yeah. I agree with you. We have just to learn how to use it (the grammar), not necessarily if (for example) it is Noun or Adjective in that sentence. Principally when speaking English, because it has a extremely small grammar system at all.. people in America (US - I call US normally by "America")/England (UK) - native or fluent English speakers have a "itching to judge the grammar of other people"(they are methodical) as something very important (who created this, probably didn't want to do much effort) and/or complex when meeting somebody (it's "social criticism" like: Texas that's bad considered as "the place where people speak with a poor grammar" principally because of some movie which I don't remember its name made "jokes" or something like it about them) and like you've mentioned again: "You fell like asking them "are there schools in your city?" I think it's the normal thought in many cases. These things are overrated/excess evaluated, considered more important than it really is.
I had the worst grammar ever, so I know well how the people are when you make a mistake! xD
Another example "California", They use "hella" slangs and whatnot. I already read an article which you can check it out by clicking on the link below, I got it again
Those sentences below were taken from the link above.
"Other English speakers don’t understand your English". "We don’t speak the same English other Americans do. "
However someone might come here and says "that's why I've learned British English, Those Americans don't even know speak their own language, They should be forbidden to speak English" Really? Let's talk about British grammar mistakes Common Grammar Mistakes in British English
Regional/country differences are important too.. Here on Rio Grande do Sul, culturally we speak "tu" without conjugate it, like: "Tu foi para a feira?" instead of "Tu foste para a feira?" that's the correct - "Por que tu falou aquilo?" instead of "Por que tu falaste aquilo?" that's the correct. We have a motive to speak grammarly wrong: "War of tatters" ("Guerra dos Farrapos" in Portuguese), Spanish and Portuguese European influence in our "Português Gaúcho"
Keeping it in mind, Californians, Texans or British people always speak something grammarly incorrect for cultural mores, it's wrong take grammar on it!.
If you got what I mean..
I got your point, I did like talking with you man 'cause you're not a Brazil über alles(Brazil above everything), You know how to listen to others and say your point without saying "you're wrong", "You should shut your mouth", "You're Brazilian you don't have the right to say something wrong just because native speakers do".....
Thanks! and don't worry! because I respect you for your "effectiveness" in all of your comments in the English from Portuguese forum!!
And there is a philosophical sentence: "One that does not know how to hear the other, is certainly a blind (metaphorically) because unaware that evolution is due to the reviews and opinions."
"Vós" isn't translated as "we".
By the way, why are you posting a topic in English in the Portuguese Duolingo forum? Just a thought ;)
I agree with you, afterall, you don't care with grammar when you are learning your native tongue, do you? You just repeat what others say, only years later you understand why you say that way.