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Conditional and tenses?

I was puzzled that the subjunctive has different forms for different tenses, but the conditional has none. (E.g., there is a present subjunctive, a past perfect subjunctive - in fact, two of them - an imperfect subjunctive, a future subjunctive, etc.)

There are some tenses where I can't see how a conditional form would work (e.g., the past perfect), but also some where I think it would (e.g., the present progressive, or the preterite).

Am I right in thinking that these are handled by using the conditional form of auxiliary verbs (haber or estar), along with the correct participle?

E.g., "I would have gone to the store, but he said no," would be "Habría ido a la tienda, pero dijo que no." ?

3 years ago

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Yes, you are right :). Habrías leído el libro- you would have read the book; estarías viendo la televisión- you would be watching TV. I think that basically there is condicional simple (for example: vendría antes- i would come before) y condicional perfecto (for example: habría venido antes- i would have come before). Conditional sentences also use conditionals as well as subjunctive. If I were rich, I would buy a car- Si fuera rico, me compraría un coche If I had known that, I would have come- Si hubiera sabido eso, habría venido Some mixes of these two are also possible If he had come, you would be happy- Si él hubiese venido, estaría contento You would have read that book, if you could speak Spanish- Habrías leído ese libro, si supieses hablar español. So that´s what I know but let´s wait for some more advanced learners or native speakers. Hope that helps a little bit

3 years ago

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It does! Thank you!

Right now, with the sudden advent of all these subjunctive forms and the conditional and imperative, when I wasn't 100% confident of the future yet... Verbs are starting to seem like some very dense forest to get through, and my machete very dull. :) So every piece helps.

3 years ago

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I know, it is very challenging in the beginning, there are so many verb forms in both English and Spanish, but you will learn it all, don´t worry. If you have any other questions, ask, maybe I´ll be able to help. Thank you very much for the lingots :) Good luck!

3 years ago

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Right now, mostly, I'm working on ways of drilling my reading comprehension. I realized that when I was reading, I would understand the root part of the verb, and the rest I would generally deduce from context. (This lesson is on the imperfect, so that's probably the imperfect. This sentence is clearly about this character demanding that that character do something, quite rudely, so that's presumably the imperative.) And although this is a natural way to read and in six months or a year, I'd like to come around back to this way of reading, right now it's short-circuiting my learning process.

I made a post a day or two ago looking for resources for drilling on recognizing verb forms, and wasn't able to get any suggestions, so I've just written out about 60 flash cards, using this page for reference, such that each card says on one side something like, "estaba", and on the other side, "Estar, yo or él, imperfect." Or, "irías" and "Ir, tú, conditional." I did this for all the verbs on that page, using the conditional, future, future perfect, imperfect, past perfect, past progressive, present, present perfect, present progressive, present subjunctive, and preterite. When I've learned the other tenses of the subjunctive, I'll make some more and mix them in.

I'll get there!

3 years ago

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I am just using duolingo to drill verb tenses.

3 years ago

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How do you use DuoLingo to drill? I find the exercises are over before I've even begun to really work on the specific things I need.

3 years ago

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I just practice the verb form sections on the tree. I focus on one and then work on finding examples where it would work in real life or in reading.

3 years ago

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Okay, so, actually, I have a question about this. If I want to say, oh....let's be dramatic: "They told me that if I didn't sign the contract, they would kill you."

Esteeeeee....

Me dijeron (o decían, si esto pasaba frecuentemente) que si no firmé el contrato, ellos te......qué?

3 years ago

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I would say it like this :) Me dijeron que si (yo) no firmara=firmase el contrato, (ellos) te matarían

3 years ago