Before you set about conquering the DL Ukrainian tree
This Ukrainian course may seem difficult if you are not at all familiar with the Cyrillic alphabet. Therefore, prior to taking it we recommend you to utilize another resource.
The resource we are going to share with you here was originally developed for Peace Corps volunteers without any Slavic language background. It consists of audio files, a supplementary PDF script and flashcards. There are 5 units broken down into lessons. Units 1-4 let you practice the alphabet. Unit 5 has some basic useful phrases
The approach we use in the language script will help you to easily start reading Ukrainian words and phrases. First you see the familiar looking/sounding letters and words that can be made of these letters. And then you string new letters and words, practicing alphabet and building your vocabulary. To some extent we tried to use this approach in our Duolingo course, but because of randomization system, lack of single word audio and some other limitations it’s not engaged fully.
There are no grammar topics in these lessons. After Unit 4 there is short information about the grammar items you come across in this course. You get to know more grammar in Tips and Notes while doing the Ukrainian tree here.
You will need a device that can read PDF format, a player to listen to the audio and (optional) an installed mobile app to work with digital flashcards (links to AppleStore and GoogleStore provided). Or you can choose to print out the flashcards (also included).
We hope these materials will help you get a head start in learning the language.
Please note: to proceed to Duolingo Ukrainian you need to have the keyboard installed. This has been discussed here already; we will just put the how-to notes and links one more time (thank you again to all who contributed to this research!)
OPTIONS ON INSTALLING UKRAINIAN KEYBOARDS.
Real (non-phonetic) Ukrainian keyboard on Mac:
- Open the keyboard settings in system settings
- Open the "input settings" tab
- Click on the plus in the lower right corner and add the Ukrainian keyboard
- Click on the Shortcuts tab to the left of input settings
- Change the "input sources" shortcut to option-space instead of command-space.
- Open the "Keyboard" tab. Select "Show keyboard & character viewer in menu bar
- Now you have a little flag in your menu bar. Click on it and choose "show keyboard viewer
- Hit option-tab to switch from English to Ukrainian. The keyboard viewer shows the new layout.
- This isn't a phonetic layout but it's probably better to learn the real layout anyway.
- The keyboard viewer floats on top of the browser window so you can always see it.
Please read also the Duolingo Ukrainian forum - Instructions by Darktroyd (and users’ comments) in this thread.
Hm...it didn't turn into all Ukrainian for me. Try this link instead, perhaps: http://www.typingstudy.com/en-ukrainian-3/lesson/1
EDIT: Ah, okay, I see what you mean now. If you click on the language in the list it turns to that language. The link I just added should work the way you want it to (note in the address it has "en" for English and Ukrainian) :) Sorry about the mix up!
I switched to the more-efficient Dvorak keyboard layout for English a while ago. I am starting to find that lessons are not necessarily the best/only way to learn a new keyboard layout. Although they help, you can learn most of the locations of the keys in an hour or two without any lessons. You just have to force yourself to not look at the keys, and then just start typing things (but not random letters, deliberate typing is required). I have had no training, and I am starting to become pretty good at touch-typing Cyrillic just by doing these lessons with a bit of practice on the side when I'm bored. It's frustrating at first, but after typing without looking for a while, you get used to it. Of course, it's hard to type anything without knowing the language, so you may have to wait until you know the language better to really learn to type well.
I started by using the GoUkrainian keyboard on my Android phone to become familiar with the keyboard layout. Then I installed Ukrainian on my laptop and created two hot-keys to switch between keyboard layouts. Within a few week I have become proficient in touch-typing in Ukrainian.
Hello there! If someone has a problem switching keyboard layouts, I recommend to pay attention to this Google Chrome extension that will allow you to answer the questions without having to constantly change your keyboard: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/8864924
I use it for a while and I can say that this app is so cool!
Welcome. By the way, may I suggest that Kiev is the Russian way of spelling Kyiv?
I couldn't have handled this without having first spent many hours over the last 2 months doing the Peace C pre arrival self starter course.
I find that the self starter course and Duo Lingo are very complementary.
Even with Duo Lingo I am still doing flash cards and work with them when i go walking. Just on line is not enough for my learning style.
Thanks. Duo Lingo is kind of addictive in a fun way
Worked through the Peace Corps pre-arrival Ukrainian in conjunction with DuoLingo and loved combination of printed scripts, audio and exercises. Having completed that I'm floundering a bit as there is no backup for the DuoLingo exercises, so will probably continue my learning with the peace corps next level 'survival Ukrainian' but hope to revisit later.
Would it be reasonable to incorporate a primer on the Cyrillic alphabet into the actual course. The learning structure that Duolingo uses would work well with learning and being able to remember the alphabet, and it would eliminate the need for having to carry around multiple learning sources when on the go.
To some extent we tried to use this approach in our Duolingo course, but because of randomization system, lack of single word audio and some other limitations it’s not engaged fully.
The first three skills are actually Letters 1, 2, and 3, it's just that Duolingo's structure is not optimized for teaching this particular type of material, and so it may not be sufficient for teaching that.
True...my point is using smartphone will make it easy to change keyboard layouts...besides, the keyboard layout for computer is the same as the phone's...right now, I'm using smartphone for Swedish...
However, I noticed that in the web version, I list Ukrainian as one of the languages I'm learning but there is no Ukrainian lesson in my phone!
Both have their advantages and disadvantages... :))
Was going to write this. It's hard af to learn the keyboard layout without being able to see the keys. You can either buy some stickers of eBay (did this, they were fingers' fat magnets and got off pretty easily - not good if you use the keyboard for gaming, etc) or use your smartphone's keyboard until you can write ruski/ukrani without looking at it (like you SHOULD be able to do in the Roman one).
I find that it's much easier to find an online ukrainian keyboard and type the text in as for example: https://www.branah.com/ukrainian and then copy/paste to duolingo. I find it much more convenient than switching it on my mac. It's been challenging to learn cyrylic alphabet but it's rewarding to be able to spell in the actual language, rather than phonetically. Ukrainian course is excellent and I admire all who put in so much work to make it possible. Дякую!
I don't know about macs, but on Linux, I have it set so that pressing Left Alt+Left Shift switches between layouts. There should be a similar settings somewhere on your computer, being that this option is also available on Windows. It makes it very easy to switch. I can't imagine having to switch tabs back and forth every time you want to type in Cyrillic. I would really recommend looking into this. If you get it working, everything will be дуже добре :D
And, yes, it is nice to learn Cyrillic.
I am using http://www.memrise.com/course/756306/ukrainian-alphabet-6/ to practice the alphabet and find it very useful.
Almost gave up on the Duolingo course before I found this - it is a huge help. Also well worth looking at more material from the Peace Corps on Ukrainian language http://www.101languages.net/ukrainian/ukrainian-peace-corps-course/. Tried the Flash Cards Deluxe on my tablet but the recommended flashcard files downloaded seemed to be empty.
Thanks for sharing. I have enjoyed learning Ukrainian and I want to keep building my skills. Perhaps someday, I will be able to visit Ukraine. My name is Jeffrey. I am from the United States, but my ancestors were Ukrainian. Drop me a line if you would like to chat in Ukrainian.
You might get a kick out of this. Since Jeffrey is an uncommon name (at least where I come from), I have always joked with other people that I knew when there were other "Jeffs" around (almost like a sixth sense). It probably sounds stupid, but it is just something that came to mind.
На сторінці https://www.duolingo.com/skill/uk/letters-1/tips-and-notes написано:
Я працюю а ти танюєш - I work and/whereas you work
Напевно, хотіли сказати
Я працюю, а ти танюєш - I work and/whereas you dance.
Very good coarse. Thank you for it. But one thing you could do to make it better is to put the words you are translating from Ukrainian to English in the exercises in Cyrillic Ukrainian and not in English alphabet. It would make it a lot harder for us, but we would thank you later.
I am a Ukrainian Canadian and am here to help learners with Ukrayins'ka mova, So any1 has questions, ask!
I am also 13 years old and male my name is Pol and I'm here to help y'all learn Ukrainian ey
My father was Ukrainian - and came from Kolomyya region - Ispas which is now renamed Spas? I went to weekend school as a child, but did not do well learning Ukrainian as my mother insisted we speak English (she was English). I am now learning Ukrainian on here as I would love to go and visit family but won't until I can actually communicate with them. I know and remember the alphabet, but do struggle with pronunciation and my terrible English accent!!! There are no decent books out there and the course, whilst great, does not explain word endings for tenses, plurals etc.
You will not learn enough on here to communicate other than on a very basic level. If you are meeting family for the first time you will all have many questions about how each other lives. The exercises on here seem to revolve mostly on tourists staying in cheap hotels in a city and asking the waiter how much this lunch costs (you will get what I'm talking about once you start the course). I am 100% Ukrainian heritage. My parents came to the US in 1949. Ukrainian was my first language, but I was the youngest of 4 and became Americanized quickly. I'm now 63 and trying to make up for lost time. I talk to my one aunt and a couple cousins via Skype eery so often, and after 1 1/2 years of using Duolingo I cannot make it through a session without heavy use of an online translator. That will not be so easy when you go to visit. Many Ukrainians that work in stores or restaurants speak some English, so that will help. But don't count on Duo to make you a fluent Ukrainian speaker.
By the way, when my siblings and I visited Ukraine in Sept of 2017 we visited the city of Kolomyya. The Hutsul museum there was fascinating!
Love this thread and all the resources, too! Unfortunately, the digital flashcards on the Flashcards Deluxe Lite app are not working. I've followed the instructions provided, but the Deck Code is not found. Can someone follow up? Would love to be able to use them for practice.
"Ніколаєвич" - it is wrong.
"Николаевич" - it is Russian, from russian name Николай, Коля.
In Ukrainian - "Миколайович", from ukrainian name Микола. https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0
Утворені від церковних посад та на релігійну тематику
піп — .... Попадюк
I started learning on the ap about 2 months ago. I've been struggling with some things. For example - tips are not available with the ap. It's just the lessons. I feel it's making it harder to learn. If you don't grasp patterns well, you don't learn the lesson, especially with the numbers units.
The same author has been working on a Ukrainian dictionary that will be released in May 2021. I expect it will be excellent as well